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Donna: It's great having a coach.

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To have someone to be able to come into the classroom and have that extra support

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when you're new, because you're nervous about everything as it is and doing the right thing.

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This has been wonderful, a wonderful experience for me.

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Debbie: Looking at the teacher, in Donna's case, being a new teacher,

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at the very beginning I spent a lot of time in her classroom.

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Either just assisting, co-teaching in lessons, modeling lessons, but also just going in

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and working with groups of students.

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And we would have conversations about what happened

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that particular day when I was in the classroom.

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And we would look at this is how the lesson was presented.

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What was the strength of the lesson?

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What was something that might be changed?

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Donna: I have a bilingual classroom and that was very hard

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for me to-some kids totally speak Spanish, some people speak Spanish

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and English-and she would help me differentiate the instruction

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so I could reach those kids, too.

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And that really helped a lot.

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Debbie: A lot of times what we looked at, too-instead of doing a whole group activity,

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we talked about the fact that some of the students had language barriers.

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So what we did was planned some small group lessons

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so that they could have that individual attention.

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And she also had some high-end students.

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She had one little girl by the end of pre-k was reading at a beginning first grade level.

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So we had to provide opportunities for that child to continue soaring in her reading.

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So we had to differentiate in that classroom.

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And these were things that we would discuss.

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And also looking at the materials, you can have a classroom full of materials,

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but what you do with them is the next important thing.

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So we would take materials out and see if it fit into that particular unit or the skill

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that we were trying to introduce with students.

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Donna: And that's what I would do like every Friday before the assistants went home,

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before we all went home, we would go over the plans for the next week and what we were going

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to do and what we're going to do in our centers.

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And how we could help each other and ask for ideas.

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Debbie: And what happened with a lot of the classrooms is, as people became more comfortable

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with me coming into their classroom, they asked me to join their team

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when it was lesson planning time.

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Because I think the biggest stumbling block was breaking off into small groups.

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They know how to do a whole group instruction.

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Donna: Mm hmm.

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Debbie: But the small group instruction was a little more difficult.

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So that's when they started inviting me to join their group

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so that we could have those discussions.

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Donna: One of the things that-I mean, I never even did with my own kids in reading is,

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you know, how you read the book, you go the picture walk.

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I never did that with my kids.

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Never just walked through, went through the pictures.

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And that was a big eye opener for me because it just gets the kids

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so ready to get ready for the book.

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Debbie: Building that background.

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Donna1: Yeah.

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And just the dialogue you can get just walking through the pictures was amazing to me.

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So that was a big eye opener for me and, you know, I do it every time now.

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Debbie: How to go about finger pointing while you're reading

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and questioning techniques while you're reading-those were all pieces

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that teachers had been used to reading stories to kids,

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but hadn't really been consciously aware of doing

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that every time they read with the student.

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So that was something...I would set up a time-"Geez, I want to come in.

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This is something I want to work on.

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What's a good time for me to come in?"

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And I carried my calendar around and I would set my time up according to their calendar.

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And as I said, sometimes we had to readjust, but we always,

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I always gave advanced notice so that it wasn't just a pop in.

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Working with teachers with a little more experience, I probably didn't do

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as much modeling as I did co-teaching.

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I found that some of those teachers were a little put off by the thought of, "Geez,

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let me come in and model something for you."

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Instead it was easier and more acceptable for them for me to say,

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"Can we co-teach a lesson together?"

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Because then they felt that I was valuing, and I do value,

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what they're bringing to the instructional piece.

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But we learned from each other.

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And also interacting with the kids, you never know from day

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to day how the kids are going to react to a lesson.

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A lesson...what I found is really effective is to walk into a classroom during

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that instructional piece and just sit with the children and become one of the children,

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the students, as the teacher would be teaching.

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And then afterwards, having an informal conversation and mentioning certain attributes

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that went well during the lesson,

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and then questioning something that was a red flag for me.

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But rather than just coming right out and saying I was concerned about it, I would question,

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"Why did you choose that particular approach?"

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and that would initiate a conversation.

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And usually what happened was from that conversation the person would eventually say

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to me, "What would you suggest that I do differently?"

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and then that opened up the door for me to say, "I can come in and model a lesson to do that

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or would you like to co-teach a lesson?"

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Or in some cases, the person just wanted me to sit there and talk with them about it.

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And so we would do that, too.

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But when I did a return visit, I would often times ask if they had been using that technique

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when I wasn't there, and how was it working.

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So it kept bringing it to the front that I eventually expected to see

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that instructional piece when
I came into the classroom.

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Some people, it took a little bit longer.

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When you have somebody that's totally resistant,

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it takes a while for you to kind of chip through that.

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But I think overall, as the time went on, within a six-month time period,

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I could see a total change in attitudes when I would walk into the classroom.

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And it all comes down to trust.

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I think that when you're being professional and you're there not as a critical person

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but as a person who wants to talk about instruction and how we can change it,

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people start realizing that it's about what we're doing in the classroom

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and it's not a personality piece.

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Donna: And what you're doing for the kids.

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Debbie: Right, ultimately that's exactly it-is, we want to see our children be successful

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and it requires that we all be open to suggestions to do that.