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(Clare Heidema): Here are some problems, five of them.

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There may be other ways you would think about solving them.

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But if you were going to solve them using either one and three-fourths times one-half or one

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and three-fourths divided by one-half, which one would you use?

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(Teacher 1): It feels like multiplication, but now, I'm thinking...

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(Teacher 2): That's multiplication.

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(Teacher 1): Right?

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But does that solve the problem?

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(Teacher 2): Yep.

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(Teacher 1): Three-quarters of a half...

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(Teacher 2): Because it means that right here, of this half, right to here,

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there is one and three-quarters pounds of birdseed.

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Right? No...

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no. One and three-fourths pounds of half a bird feeder.

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Can you put it like that?

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(Teacher 1): But what I want to do is one and three-fourths times two.

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So maybe it is divide because that would be the reciprocal, right?

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(Heidema): Before we talk about all of them, let me just ask, what was an easy one?

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Number four?

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Why was four easy?

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Because it was...?

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(Teacher 3): Area.

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(Heidema): Area, and so what would you do?

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Which one of those calculations would you do for that problem?

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(Teacher 3): Multiply.

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(Heidema): Multiply one and three-fourths times one-half.

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Was there anything else that was fairly easy to think about?

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(Teacher 1): Number five.

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(Heidema): Number five?

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And tell me about number five.

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(Teacher 1): It was, basically, how many groups of half a cup are in one and three-quarter cups.

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(Heidema): So it was fairly easy when it was the lemonade that you had one

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and three-fourths cups of and you were trying to take out servings of size one-half

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that you could think about how many halves there were in.

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And I think, how many times did we hear that as-when you do one and three-fourths divided

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by one-half, it means how many halves are in one and three-fourths?

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What about number one?

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(Teacher 2): I thought that one was fairly simple just because it's telling you to take half

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of a whole already, because it says how many cups of sugar do you need to make half a batch

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of cookies if the full batch takes one and three-fourths cups.

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So I already knew that for the whole thing I needed one and three-fourths,

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so half I would have to split that in half.

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(Heidema): And so which of these two calculations did you use?

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(Teacher 2): The division.

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I divided.

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(Heidema): You divided, one and three-fourths divided by one-half?

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(Teacher): I think you divide it by two but you multiply it by half.

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(Heidema): And so what you have been talking about all along

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with fractions has been a measurement notion of division.

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But there is also with fractions, just like with whole numbers,

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there is what is called a partitive notion.

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It's parts, putting it into-in the case of dividing by two-into two parts.

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If we were dividing by one-half, it just sounds different

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because you can't think so easily about half parts.

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Okay? But that's the kind of thing that you are doing here is a partitive division problem.

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I would like you to write a story problem that's not a "How many two-thirds are there in...,"

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not the measurement story type problem, but a partitive problem.

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Four and one-half divided by two-thirds.

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Partly because it was so difficult, that problem,

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in terms of just thinking about it that I thought maybe if we have a collection of them

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that you have thought about that it will sound a little easier, if you like,

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to think about it as a division-dividing by a fraction problem.

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You want to start us off here?

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(Teacher 2): Four and a half cups of flour is enough for two-thirds' batch of cookies.

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How much flour is needed for the full batch?

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(Teacher 4): How many gallons of gas fill a gas can if four

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and half gallons fills a gas can two-thirds full?

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(Heidema): We have something that, as you said, fills a part of it,

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but what do we need for the whole?

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And the part is the two-thirds part; we are going to divide by two-thirds.

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And there is lots of context, lots of things like that, real kind of problem sometimes, right?

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I don't know how real this is, but you could imagine.

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I have got four and a half yards, that's only going to get me two-thirds of the way,

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or if that four and a half gallons only filled up two-thirds of.

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That's a real problem.

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I have gone four and a half miles, and I have only gone two-thirds of the way.

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I have got four and a half cups but that's only going to make two-thirds of my batch.

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So they can be very real-sounding problems.