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We're encouraging teachers to think about big and small changes

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in their practice they might consider that can encourage students

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to be interested in math and science.

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Finding the things that students are curious about, whether they're context or real world events

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or historical events, or things that are going on in their town,

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or things in youth culture that are interesting to students.

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Or using things like cooperative grouping or technology,

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or thinking about the word problem context and students' names,

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we could make a long list of little things that, again, teachers will think are good practices.

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But they're good practices because they get students interested,

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and we know that that short-term interest-that situational interest

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or curiosity is linked to long-term interest.

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The research is mostly geared with the older students in this area about long-term interest,

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because that's when it's most-that's when it's closest to being fully formed.

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At earlier ages it's still in development.

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What that means in practice is that the younger students might need a little more support

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and encouragement to keep that interest going.

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We imagine long-term interest as something-again, it's something that's from within

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and something that's-it's sort of self directed.

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"I pursue things, I choose to pursue things myself.

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I seek out, I'm not frustrated by challenges."

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But for a younger student-if they're just beginning to think they might be interested

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in something-if they experience some sort of set back or frustration,

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they need a little extra support and encouragement

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to keep them going along those lines and not be turned off by that.

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So it's sort of a-it's a nurturing role

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that teachers play once a student's interests are just starting to emerge,

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particularly in math and science.

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There are a lot of reasons why, say, a girl who is just discovering that she might be interested

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in math and science could get turned off by that.

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She could believe that there aren't not many women who pursue

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that career and, "Why should I do that?"

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And she might think that the only people who pursue that career are people

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who are naturally gifted in math, "And I'm not.

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So I shouldn't go on that path.

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I just did my homework last night, and I thought I was good at math.

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And it was really hard, and I must be bad in math."

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So there's a lot that teachers need to do to nurture once students are starting

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to develop senses of their own abilities about a subject area

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and realizing that they might be interested in it as well.

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What role models can help do-and what teachers can do themselves even-is try to make connections

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between the math and science that's going on in class and the way math and science is used

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out in the world, especially in math and science fields.

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So, for example, if I'm in a science class in middle school and I have my students doing a lab

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about a particular activity, and a student is very curious about this lab- I've designed it well

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so that it's something that sparks students' initial curiosity-then

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if subsequently a student realizes that, "Hey, that thing I just did is what people actually do

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when they pursue a science career," then that becomes a really important link

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in furthering their long-term interest and making them think differently

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about possible career trajectories.

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So making those linkages between what you do in class in the math and science classes

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and the ways that math and science are used in different kinds of careers seems critical.

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In the practice guide we make a recommendation that one way

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that teachers can spark students' initial curiosity is by making activities

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and context for problems that we're working on to be relevant or meaningful to students' lives.

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And one concern that some teachers might have is teachers may feel like they're just not

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in touch with what students are interested in.

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What's-who's the latest pop star?

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What's the latest sort of cultural fad?

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It's impossible for teachers to keep up with that.

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It's hard enough with your own kids, much lese the 30 kids in your class, times six.

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So our recommendation is not suggesting

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that that's what teachers should do-that you should start buying all the teeny bopper magazines

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and learn about what's going on with all the cultural stuff for teens.

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But rather that it's just one tool in your arsenal.

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It's just one thing that you should think about.

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It's one possibility.

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Teachers know what students are interested in beyond those fads.

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You know what kind of puzzling situations or what sort of current events

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or historical events students have found interesting in the past.

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Expert teachers have a wealth of knowledge to draw on about what's interesting to students.

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So this isn't just about the latest movie.

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It's about much more than that.

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It's about relevance to kids' lives.

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And certainly there's a lot about kids' lives that has changed over time,

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but there's also a lot that has stayed the same-that teachers with experience can draw upon

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to make classroom activities relevant and interesting to kids.

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Another concern that teachers might have about these recommendations

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about making activities interesting for students,

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is that creating interesting activities is very time consuming.

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It's very hard for teachers to find time in their busy days to come up with a brand new,

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interesting exploration or activity that pursues some content area in math and science.

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It's very, very challenging.

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So we're not suggesting that teachers turn over their lives to that kind of planning,

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just that teachers can look for existing activities that they can use

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and adapt for their own purposes.

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There are a ton of activities available from a variety of resources that teachers have developed

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that pursue different content areas, different aspects of math and science that are interesting.

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There are labs you can download lesson plans from,

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there are a lot of materials in both math and science.

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So we're not suggesting that teachers reinvent the wheel.

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We're merely suggesting that teachers should become convinced that the importance

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of such activities in stimulating students' interest-that it might be worth the extra few

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minutes to go looking around for those lesson plans that might be useful

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as a different way to teach this.

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And this is an area that school administrators can help as well in.

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Given all the resources that are out there about different kinds of lesson plans

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on the internet, it's really overwhelming for teachers to say,

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"Go out and try to find an activity that does X or Y."

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So district administrators, principals, can try to help synthesize that information.

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What are some of the best websites that teachers should go to?

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What are some of the different ways that other teachers have taught this activity

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that have proved to be very effective?

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So that's an area where teachers need some help and that administrators can really support them

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and help them implement these recommendations.

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In terms of what districts and principals and administrators can do

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to help teachers implement these recommendations, no matter what the recommendation is,

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the two things that teachers need more of-ask any teacher-it's time and money.

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And this is no different for the recommendations we're making,

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but I think there are ways that we can think about what that means-time

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and money-a little more concretely.

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In terms of time, what teachers need

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to implement these recommendations is really about planning time.

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And planning time might mean that teachers have common prep periods so that

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when one teacher is not teaching a class, there are other teachers not teaching at the same time

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so they can get together and talk, not only about what they're teaching,

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which teachers talk about anyway.

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What they're teaching, where you're at, when's your test-but also how you're teaching.

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What activities are you using to get at this idea?

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Did students find it interesting or not?

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So those common prep periods really give teachers time for those kind

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of conversations, which are critical.

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A complementary thing that comes along with time is

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that teachers need the opportunity to watch other teachers teach.

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It's sort of an irony in our educational system

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that the only time you ever watch anyone else teach is

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when you're learning how to teach in the first year.

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And after that, you're on your own.

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You never see anybody else teach.

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I'm often in high school math classrooms for veteran teachers of 30 or 35 years experience

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and I say, "When was the last time you ever watched anyone teach, other than yourself?"

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And many of them say it was when they student taught, 30 years ago.

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We need to have opportunities for teachers to watch each other teach

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and learn about other teachers' strategies, other activities that teachers are doing,

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how those activities are implemented.

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That seems a critical part of learning to teach and implement these activities.

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When I was learning to teach and in my first years of teaching,

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that turned out to be particularly critical for me.

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I was in a school where all the math teachers had a shared office.

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And so we didn't have an assigned classroom, we had a shared office that we actually used.

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So we would go teach our class, come back and stay at the office together.

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And during our off periods, there were always teachers around and we would talk.

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And not just sort of small talk, we would have substantive conversations

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about how I taught this lesson, how it went.

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"How did you teach that lesson?

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What worked, what didn't work?

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Is there a particular problem here that you used

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to get students interested and engaged in this topic?"

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So in my learning to be a teacher, that was absolutely critical.

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And we would encourage administrators to think about ways to get teachers to be

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in an office together and to use that time.

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It's not just a space, it's about using the time

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that they're given for productive conversations.

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That seems very important.

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There's a lot that teachers of math and science can learn from other content areas as well.

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It's a way that we can, again, make math and science interesting.

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If we know that some students are particularly interested in music, for example,

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as a context-then there is a lot of mathematics in music,

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and music also can be linked to many topics in science.

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So that's a great example of ways that we can build on students' curiosity.

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Students may be knowledgeable, interested in or curious about music.

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Music might be relevant to their own personal life.

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So I'm going to make use of music in the way that I teach math.

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Now again, we're not suggesting that I design a whole six-week unit on music and math

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and don't cover the other stuff I was supposed to cover.

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It's rather thinking about, "How can I integrate the mathematics in music

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with the content I have to cover anyway?"

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And that's-there's a lot of resources out there that do

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so in this particular example and in other examples.

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That's what we're asking teachers to think more carefully about.

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"How can I build on what students find relevant and interesting already and connect that to math

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and science to spark their initial interest in math and science?"

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Teachers may feel like, "Oh, that's just good teaching."

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And it is.

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That's just good teaching-making contacts relevant to students' lives,

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introducing things that students find interesting and they want to explore.

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But what some teachers may not realize is that that can have a big impact on students' later,

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full-blown individual interest or long-term interest in math and science.

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Math and science become something that students have positive memories of doing tasks

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and problems that they found interesting, that they were curious about,

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that they enjoyed working with, and it- the subject becomes something that is meaningful

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and interesting and fun for them.